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Repetition of Names
If it strikes you as odd that a man named Jonathan would name his first son Jonathan and his second son John, perhaps the following excerpt will help:
"Picking out a name for your newborn isn't difficult if you follow a custom started in medieval Scotland, about the time of Braveheart. The first son in a family was given the name of the father's father; the second son was named after the mother's father, and the third son was named for the father. If it went above three, some families carried the pattern through their parent's brothers, alternating from one side of the family to the other.
Ah, but what if it was a girl? No problem. The first daughter was named after the mother's mother; the second was given the name of the father's mother. You guessed it; a third daughter was named after the mother. And so on.
It was also common that if a child died in infancy, the next child of that sex was given the dead child's name."
Excerpted from Lee Meade's Mead-e Family Tree
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Which John is which? John Hawks II is the founder of our family in America, where he immigrated with his brother Adam who founded another line of Hawks. John Hawks II married Elizabeth Brown. When John Hawks II passed away in 1662, Elizabeth married Robert Hinsale. John Hawks III, Hannah Hawks Scott's father, fought in King Philip's War.
Here is a bit about Elizabeth Brown's marriage to Robert Hinsdale whom we should name a well respected pioneer and defender of his people. The following is taken from page 15 of Imogene Hawks Lane's marvellous and massive work John Hawks, A Founder of Hadley, Mass:
"His first wife was a timid and sensitive woman, while Elizabeth was of a different temperament. The marriage was an unhappy one, and they soon parted. Elizabeth returned to her home in Hadley. At a court held 30 March 1674, they were 'presented for living assunder contrary to law,' also charged 'with lacivious and wanton carriage.' On examination Elizabeth refused to answer, and it appears that she was cleared of any wrongdoing. Robert Hinsdale said he 'did it as being her head and having the rule of her in the Pointe and that he did it for her correction of her disorder towards him.' Although he was a respected man in the community, the court held he had 'broken the Perfect rule of divine law Mal. 2:16, Matt. 19:6, and 1 Peter 3:7 and the law of the Colony in the intent if not in the letter in the first living assunder,' and ordered him 'whipped ten stripes on the naked body;' and imposed a fine."
Robert's life ends rather tragically, and that is a story for another day.
In case you are wondering what those Scriptures are, the first two deal with divorce in general. But the last is probably more to the point of their particular incident whatever it was: 'Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered."
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Notes on the Genealogies and Lives of the Families Scott and Hawks
by
Florence Pluma Waters Orcutt with additional notes by her son Fred S. Orcutt, Sr. Blacksburg, Virginia 1974.
All notes have been typed verbatim except where unclear. All references to "you" were to her children, one of whom is my grandmother. The Afterward and the Adams, Moore, Montague, Orcutt & Waters families are on the page entitled Florence Orcutt's Notes. A click on the blue text above will take you there.
Scott Family
(This is where the Hawks Family is mentioned.)
(Edward R. Smith, author of The Family of Edmund Scott: An Original Proprietor of Farmington and Waterbury, CT, has done a great deal of work on the Scotts in America. For a copy of his work, please email edwardrsmith (at) msn.com As mentioned above, I have not verfied Florence' work.)
“The below dates and names were copied just as they were recorded in the old records of The Church of St. Nicholas, Rattlesden, Suffolk, England. This accounts for the varied spelling. There were no records previous to 1558.” {Copied by Louise Waters (Ralph’s wife) on her visit to Rattlesden in 1936.}
1568 – July 18, Martha, daughter of Thomas Whatlock and Joane his w., was baptized.
1594 – 25 July – Henry Scoote and Martha Whatlocke – maried
1595 – Feb. 26 – Thomas Scotte, sonne of henry and Martha baptized
1583 – Richard Wilson appointed Rector by Queen Elizabeth.
The name “Ralph Scott, wounded,” was listed on a tablet to the “Killed and Wounded of the Great War.”
(1) Henry Scott, Rattlesden, County Suffolk, England. He was living there in 1580. He married Martha Whitlock.
(2) Thomas Scott son of Henry – first settler of Hartford, Connecticut – b.1595. Sailed from Ipswich, England to Ipswich, Mass., in the bark Elizabeth, aged 40, and three children, Thomas 6, Abigail 7, and Elizabeth 9 years of age. He was an original proprietor, but not a settler of Farmington, Conn. His children were 1. – Edmund b. England, 2. – Elizabeth b. England 1625, 3. – Abigail b. England 1627, 4. – Thomas b. England 1628, 5. – Mary b. Hartford, 6. Sarah b. Hartford.
Elizabeth married the famous Deacon John Loomis of Windsor, Conn. In 1648.
d. 1696. (One assumes this refers to Thomas.) Thomas married Margaret, daughter of Wm. Hubbard, Ipswich, Mass., and settled at Stamford, Conn. Mary married Robert Port, Farmington, Conn.; Sarah married John Stanley, Farmington, d. 1661.
Thomas Scott was both the grandfather-in-law of Hannah Hawks Scott and the father-in-law of Hannah Hawks Scott’s step-mother, Alice’s, sister-in-law from Alice’s first marriage. Ha! It sounds quite complicated. I state it only to show how small the world was and how intertwined our families are the farther one looks into the past.
(3) Edmund Scott, son of Thomas came from England after his father. He was a first settler of Farmington, and afterwards with his sons of Waterbury, Conn. His children were:
Hannah m. Deacon John Bronson
Edmund m. Sarah Porter
Samuel m. Mary Orvier (sp?)
Jonathan m. Hannah Hawks
George m. Mary Richards
David m. Sarah Richards
(4) Jonathan Scott m. Hannah Hawks Nov. 1694. He d. May 16, 1745.
Hannah d. April 7, 1744
Jonathan Scott was carried with his two sons (Jonathan and John) to Canada by Indians, tortured and escaped. Jonathan and his wife are buried in the old cemetery at Watertown, where the D.A.R. have erected a monument to their memory. Hannah belonged to the famous Hawks family, nearly all of whom perished in the Deerfield massacre.
(These are the three sentences mentioned in the Preface. This epic story had been lost in our family for over a century, and Florence never did know John Scott's story. I am so grateful to her for having written all of these fragments down. Without them, we still would not know, and there would be no one to remember Hannah, to keep vigil for her.)
Children of Jonathan Scott and Hannah Hawks:
1. – Jonathan, Jr. b. Sept. 29, 1696
m. 1st Mary Hulbert July 14, 1725
2nd Rebecca Frost
2. – John b. June 25, 1699 (John plays a major role in our book. His story would have meant a great deal to Florence had she known it. Without her notes, I would never have discovered it.
3. – Martha b. July 9, 1701 m. Jos. Hurlbut
4. – Gershom b. Sept. 6, 1703 m. Mary Fenton
5. – Eleazer b. Dec. 31, 1705 m. Martha Sutliff
6. – Dr. David b. Sept. 20, 1707 m. Hannah May (sp?) d. Apr. 27, 1762
(5) Jonathan Scott Jr.
His children:
1. – John b. May 6, 1726
2. – Abel b. Aug. 3, 1730
3. – Thankful b. May 10, 1732
4. – Pheba b. May 24, 1734
5. – Rebecca b. Oct. 3, 1736
6. – Rachel b. Nov. 3, 1739
7. – Eber (see next generation)
8. – Jonathan b. 1742, m. Mary Doolittle 2/23/1764 d. Feb. 28, 1813
(6) Eber Scott b. July 1747, d. Dec 15, 1796
m. Lydia Reynolds (My (Florence Waters Orcutt’s) mother used often to talk about “Uncle Eber”)
Children:
1. – Aaron b. Feb. 25, 1770 d. Sept. 21, 1776
2. – Abigail b. Aug. 25, 1775 d. Sept. 15, 1776
3. – Abigail b. May 27, 1778, m. Simson Stoddard 1798
4. – Aaron
5. – Eber b. 1783 m. Amanda Hickox d. Aug. 31, 1851
6. – Lydia b. Mch. 30, 1789 d. Apr. 21, 1851
m. (1) Jos. Hall in 1809
m. (2) Minor Thomas in 1820
(7) Aaron b. Nov. 6, 1780, d. Apr. 21, 1851
m. Sarah Hard, Sept. 9, 1801
Aaron Scott was born at Watertown, Conn. His fathers died when he was 15. He lived with his widowed mother till 1801, then married Sarah Hard of Watertown, Conn. And a few years later moved to Harpersfield, N.Y. and from there to Huntsburg, Ohio, on Geb. 28, 1818, with his family of 6 children. They traveled with horses and covered wagon being 4 weeks on the road. He opened up a settlement in the north-most (north-west?) part of the township, in a dense forest, and also induced many other families to settle in the same locality, which afterwards took the name of Scottsburg.
Aaron Scott established a sawmill run by water power. He had a superior education for the time in which he lived and was often employed as a school teacher in Harpersfield and Huntsburg. He was prominent in the organization of the village of Huntsburg in 1821, and was the first Justice of the Peace which office he held for 21 years. At that time there was a good deal of litigation over land titles, etc. As there was no town hall at that time, the suits at law were settled at his house. Lawyers from Chardon and Warren were often called upon, and there being no hotels Aaron Scott’s home was head quarters for all who came. The burden of providing the meals fell on Mrs. Scott and her daughters.
Aaron Scott was very hospitable and at the marriage of his eldest daughter in 1827 invited the whole town to the wedding. Tables were spread under the trees and were laden with turkeys, roast pig and pies and cakes of every description. After the ceremony a sermon was preached by the officiating clergyman, Elder William Collins, from Chardon.
Their first log house was burned in June, 1826. Flax drying before the large fireplace caught fire and destroyed the house and contents, including the wedding outfit of the oldest daughter, Mary Ann Scott, which postponed her wedding for a year.
Two children were born to Aaron and Sarah Scott after coming to Huntsburg. 7 of the 8 children settled in Huntsburg.
Children of Aaron and Sarah Scott:
1. – John Curtis b. June 18, 1802 d. Feb. 4, 1857
m. Lucy Clark, March 17, 1825
2. – Frederic
3. – Mary Ann b. July 26, 1809 d. Apr. 3, 1867
m. Elijah Pomeroy
4. – Chloe b. Feb. 14, 1812 d. Dec. 10, 1867
m. Russell Gray, June 6, 1837
5. – Abilgail (Aunt Abby) b. Oct. 14, 1814 d. Sept. 21, 1890
m. Bridgeman Pomeroy, Oct. 8, 1833
6. – Eber b. Nov. 18, 1817
m. Betsey Strong, Oct. 21, 1846
7. – Janette b. May 8, 1820 d. Feb. 16, 1896
m. Smith Wright, Oct. 11, 1848
This is my (Florence Waters Orcutt’s) “Aunt Janette” for whom my Mother was named. I remember her as the jolliest old lady always dressed in black silk or velvet and with a curl behind each ear. Smith Wright was a dry good merchant in Chardon.
(8) Frederic Scott b. Feb. 9, 1804 in Watertown, Conn. (1805 Waters Bible) d. Feb. 16, 1863
m. Dolly Wright, October 3, 1830 Huntsburg, OH
Obituary of Frederic Scott:
In Huntsburg, Feb. 16, 1863, of cancerous affection of the liver and other internal organs, Frederic Scott aged 58 years. The deceased was one of the pioneer settlers of Huntsburg, having emigrated here from the State of New York with his father, Aaron Scott in 1819. In common with other settlers, he commenced his life in the woods, and cheerfully endured the hardships and privations so incident to the first settlers of a new country.
By honest and industrious toil, he acquired a competence for his family, and lived to enjoy the fruits of his labor.
In early life, he became a member of the Disciple Church. He was a liberal as well as practical christian, a devoted husband, a kind, and indulgent father; a charitable citizen; a lover of temperance, and was respected and loved by all who knew him.
The loss of such a man is a public calamity, for the open hand of charity was freely extended to the poor, the sick, and the afflicted. Tho sad, sad indeed is this bereavement to his family, he has left assurance that his earthly labors were completed. The funeral was attended by a large concourse of people desirous of paying the last sad tribute of respect to departed worth, and slow was the hand to close the coffin over that face from which light and good had so often beamed.
Children of Frederic and Dolly Scott:
1. – Elvira b. April 4, 1832 d. Dec. 8, 1902
m. Russel Gray, May 24, 1870
Sadie (Sarah) Gray – daughter
2. – Sarah Almeda b. May 4, 1834 d. Jan. 23, 1875
(daughter Floy Clapp Little)
m. Ed Clapp (Frederic Orcutt’s notes include Samuel Church Clapp. Unclear if son of full name of Ed Clapp.)
3. – Julia Ann b. Aug. 28, 1836 d. July 6, 1837
4. – Martha Janette (Nettie) b. Jan. 5, 1841 d. Nov. 12, 1916
m. Darwin Waters, Nov. 26, 1868
5. – John Frederic b. Dec. 5, 1843 d. Feb. 24, 1907
In Mattoon, Illinois – Mayor 25 years
m. Sophia Clark, Oct. 11, 1868
Many people have told me (Florence Waters Orcutt) what a grand place it was to visit at “Uncle Fred’s” (Frederic Scott). He was always jolly and liked nothing better than to have a crowd of young people in his home. “Aunt Dolly” and he would sit on the haircloth sofa – he with his arm around her. She was in poor health for many years and Aunt Vira (the oldest daughter was the house keeper. Her one child was my cousin Sadie (Sadie Gray) 3 mo. Older than I. Sarah (Frederic Scott’s second daughter) was Edna’s and Mae’s mother. But Aunt Sarah died when Edna was 3 years old (before either Edna or I could remember). Her father married for his second wife “Aunt Cornelia” – Aunt Mary Russell’s sister.
During all our childhood Sadie and her mother, Edna’s family and our family lived in Bloomfield and the 5 girl cousins (Mae, Edna, Sadie, Elva and I) were constant playmates. Fred Clapp and Ralph Waters, the 2 boys among us were not so much a part of our little girlhood because one was older and the other younger. They both became doctors.
We had frequent family gatherings for in addition to the 3 families mentioned in Bloomfield lived Uncle Dwight and Aunt Mary Smith (Justin Smith’s and Mattie Chase’s parents). They had a general store on the corner next to our home. Then there were Aunt Martha and Uncle Chauncey Savage. Aunt Martha was a sister of Dolly Wright Scott (my Grandma). They also kept a general store and always brought candy and presents for us children. Also in Bloomfield were Aunt Mary and Uncle Lon Russell -- parents of Delos (sp?Short for Delores?). When I first remember Uncle Lon had a sawmill and the sound of the saw and sight of sawdust always take me back to his mill. Later Uncle Lon had a general store which Delos and Mae continued, as also the Post Office.
(9) Martha Janette (Nettie) Scott b. Jan. 5, 1841 d. Nov. 14, 1916
m. Darwin W. Waters, Nov. 26, 1868 (Thanksgiving Day)
First they owned a farm in Huntsburg, Ohio, where I (Florence Waters Orcutt) was born – then moved to Bloomfield, Ohio, where Elva and Ralph were born. Our home was a pretty frame house with 1 ½ acres of land. We had a nice orchard and always a good garden with strawberries, grapes, etc. There was a white picket fence across the front-square pickets pointed at the top; and the posts with iron braces set in flag-stones and our front walk and steps were stone (before the days of cement).
My Mother (Nettie Scott Waters) was a very superior woman (Grand-mother Pluma Waters used to tell me so when I was a little girl, others told me so later, and I know from my own observation that she had a very find mind and was an outstanding mother. Before her marriage she taught school in Prairie-du-Chien, Wisconsin, where she went to be near her friend, Ella Wheeler Wilcox, who wrote “Laugh and the world laughs with you.” Mother was an omnivorous reader, but never read to the neglect of her home duties, for I never knew a more devoted housekeeper. It was said of her that she had a place for everything and everything in its place. She was orderly, neat, and precise.
Her brother, John Frederic Scott (he had two sons, Earl Clark Scott and Montague Scott) was a handsome man, as I remember him, tall and weighing over 200 lbs., quite long, brown hair, long mustache and deep blue eyes. He was a lawyer of note, and at our time Mayor of Mattoon, Illinois, where he lived all his grown-up life (25 years).
May Wright Sewell, who was head of a girls’ school in Indianapolis, and prominent in the Woman Suffrage movement, was a cousin of mothers. Dr. Charlie Wright, a prominent physician of Altamont, Ill., was also a cousin.
Nettie Scott Waters had excellent discipline and held high ideals for her children. Sister Elva and I always went to Sunday School with our little red Testaments. Mother was honest and just – one of her maxims: “Be just before you are generous.” She got a new book for each of her children each birthday. I have often wondered how she could get as many books as she did for books were not as plentiful in those days. We always went to school unless really ill – no excuses passed with Mother. Elva and I were always well dressed, better than most of the little girls. We did our portion of the housework every day. I washed dishes when I had to stand on a stool to reach the dishpan. We filled the woodbox, picked up chips, brought up apples, and vegetables from the cellar, picked and shelled peas, chopped cabbage (and never shall I forget how fine it had to be) picked strawberries and currants, and gathered apples, but it is in the doing of these many things that be some of our happiest childhood memories, for we were always “playing” something while doing our work.
Father (Darwin Waters) was member of School Board and was instrumental in procuring better teachers and better text books (I am suspicious that Mother had much to do with that). Never have I known a better teacher than our H.S. Principal Dr. Reeves, who taught us to read in a most intelligible way (singly and in concert); grammar was his hobby, and his pupils feel lifelong gratitude for his training in the use of good English – tho nothing but the best of English could be spoken in the presence of our Mother.
The joys of those childhood days can never be obliterated, - the evenings gathered round the table before the big drum stove with a large pan of apples (Baldwins, Northern Skies (sp?) , Greenings and Russets) setting before the fire – we children with our books and slates lying on the table, Father with his newspaper, and Mother with her sewing. But there was not dilly-dallying when the stroke of bedtime sounded – up we scurried to our bedroom – and never can we forget that room of our childhood, where we played with our dolls and paper dolls. Every Saturday we had to sweep and dust and straighten, for Mother’s inspection.
Ralph our baby brother, came when I was 12, and he slept after his baby days were over in the cherry bed in the S.W. room.
Darwin Whiting Waters, my father, was next to the oldest son of Milton and Pluma Waters, and spent the larger portions of his boyhood on his father’s farm, with comparatively little schooling. He served three years in the War between the States in the 7th Ohio Volunteer Infantry in the campaign of the East, was wounded in his right arm at Chancellorsville, sent home for furlough, but went back, was transferred to the Army of the West under Gen. Grant and Gen. Hooker, then marched with Sherman on his famous March to the Sea. He always said he would not apply for a pension as long as he was able to work, but in the latter years of his life, after pensions were granted to all veterans, he did received $30 a month.
Darwin Waters owned a farm in Huntsburg and lived there for a time after marriage, then sold farm and moved to Bloomfield, Ohio. He sold lightning rods (every house had lightning rods then), later pumps and windmills. Then he bought and sold cattle and hogs – always had a nice team of horses (Dick and Dan). He served as Township Trustee and also as member of the School Board and was a prominent citizen of the little town of Bloomfield.
When Elva and I were grown girls the Family moved to Austinburg, Ashtabula County, Ohio, that we children might attend Grand River Institute, and Elva, Ralph, and I all graduated from G.R.I. I graduated in 1894 with a diploma from the “Classical Course.” Before that I had completed a “Business Course” under Professor Gegenheimer (sp?). It was at G.R.I. that we came under the tutelage of Father McClelland one of the greatest and best influences of our lives.
It was here at Austinburg that I met and married Robert Orcutt. His father, W.E. Orcutt (your Grand-father Orcutt) was Post Master for a great many years, owned a shoe store, and was Secretary of the Board of Trustees of the G.R.I. His wife, Dora Orcutt, died when Robert was but 12, and Orpha Orcutt (see Orcutt Genealogy) came to keep house for the motherless boys and their father. She remained with them till Walter and Merton went west to seek their fortunes.
Robert left school early, and clerked in Barnes’ store in Austinburg, then in Ashtabula, then in Geneva, then Cleveland and finally to Sioux City, Iowa, where his brothers were located.
Ralph Waters graduated from Grand River Institute, then from Adelbert College (Science and Letters) then from the Medical College of Western Reserve University, both of the latter in Cleveland, Ohio.
He practiced first in Sioux City, Iowa, then in Kansas City, Mo., then became an “Associate Professor of Surgery in charge of Anesthesia” at Wisconsin University. (My father-in-law is an anesthetist and recalls studying Ralph Waters in school. He is known as the Father of Modern Anesthesiology.)
So your fore-fathers and mothers have been men and women of the ordinary walks of life, many of them farmers, but in none of the many lines have I ever heard of one of whom we may not be proud, or who has not added his bit to the up-building of his or her nation and race. Valiant “Pioneers” all of them, ever pushing westward, first to New England, then to New York State some of them, all of them to Ohio. The northern part of Ohio was Connecticut’s “Western Reserve” to which most of our ancestors emigrated from Massachusetts and Connecticut.
Some of us pushed on to Iowa (when we came on to the scene of action) where you came into the story, and will carry it on thru the years.
I have not tried to numerate events which occurred within your remembrance. Perhaps you will write them for your children and grandchildren.
Afterward
The geographical 'frontiers' of our country have all been crossed. The lands are mostly settled now. So it is left for you of this generation and the generations to come to be "pioneers" of the inner realms, of your spirit, your mind, and your body.
May you find the good in everything and reap the success you deserve in all your pushing-forward.
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Debate over the Origin of the Scott Family Name
Clan Scott Society
Clan Scott
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It is probable that our families were in some way involved in the Pequot War as well. I have not researched this. Here is an excerpt from Mystic Voices: The Puritan justification for the action is simply stated by Captain Underhill:
It may be demanded, Why should you be so furious? Should not Christians have more mercy and compassion? Sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children must perish with their parents. Sometimes the case alters, but we will not dispute it now. We had sufficient light from the word of God for our proceedings.
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Though I have not explored this very far, I suspect that any descendants of John Hawks, Edmund Scott, William Mead, or William Orcutt are eligible for membership in the following societies:
Society of Colonial Wars (Exclusively Male)
Daughters of Colonial Wars (Exclusively Female)
National Society Colonial Dames XVII Century (Exclusively Female)
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